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Ron Paul on MSNBC Morning Joe 12/27 *FULL* Part 2 of 2



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Ron Paul said ... ( 1 year ago by MarkDouglasC)
Ron Paul said Lincoln started the civil war -- and that Wilson was wrong to win world war one. Nonsense -- Wilson was right to save the world. Lincoln didnt start civil war - he ended it, and used it, once it started, to end slavery.
Whos the white ... ( 1 year ago by thor718)
Whos the white haired ass who keeps saying that Ron Pauls wrong about Lincoln. Lincoln was an asshole as president. Ron Paul was absolutley RIGHT. That white haired guy is ignorant and only studies what makes him feel warm inside.
Deny whose history ... ( 1 year ago by siamdesperado)
Deny whose history and truth. Ron Paul loves the wacky conspiracy theories. He is right about nation building. He says some very good stuff. Often the right message coming from a waacked out messenger. Check your medication Ron.
Everyone is also ... ( 11 months ago by packrat76)
Everyone is also taught to believe that JFK was such a great president, but had he lived to be reelected the $hit would have hit the fan about his extramarital affairs, just like what happened to Clinton in his second term. The white haired guy isn't the only ass. I felt they were quite disrespectful toward Ron Paul.
Was Wilson a ... ( 9 months ago by R3n3gad3Z3d)
Was Wilson a neo-con? Yes and No. Granted, Leo Strauss is considered the "godfather of neoconservatism." So, no Wilson was not REALLY a neocon, however, neoconservatism, is revived Wilsonianism. T. Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson were imperialists (ironically called "Progressives"). The so-called Progressives were the neocons of their day. In a sense, Wilson was more of a neocon than Bush Co. could ever dream of being. The key influences on neocon ideology are T. Roosevelt, Wilson, Trotsky, Strauss
1. Lincoln's reason ... ( 9 months ago by R3n3gad3Z3d)
1. Lincoln's reason for fighting the Civil War was not to abolish slavery. It was for the single goal of preserving the Union. (He later joined the Abolitionist cause to the war effort, partly as political tactic.)
2. Though he was responding to Confederate acts of insurrection, Lincoln shared responsibility in starting the Civil War (not that he was wrong to do so).
2. Aside from ... ( 9 months ago by R3n3gad3Z3d)
2. Aside from dragging us into a European Civil War, Woodrow Wilson was a power-hungry despot and a disgusting racist. The fact that you consider him a hero reveals what fascist scum you are.
As for Lincoln, unlike that asshole Wilson, Lincoln (and FDR) was a decent president. (I guess I go against my fellow "Paultards" in calling Lincoln and FDR decent.) Lincoln was a great statesman, but not perfect or flawless.
1. The Germans ... ( 9 months ago by R3n3gad3Z3d)
1. The Germans posed no threat to the USA. The unrestricted submarine warfare campaign was a counter to a British naval blockade of Europe (which deprived not only Germans but Poles, Hungarians, and other Central Europeans of food and supplies). Germany announced the plan and warned against traveling in the vicinity. Yet Wilson let American passengers to board the Lusitania (which carried an explosive cargo). Were it not for the blast the ship would've sunk slow enough to save the passengers.
1. The Germans ... ( 9 months ago by R3n3gad3Z3d)
1. The Germans posed no threat to the USA. The unrestricted submarine warfare campaign was a counter to a British naval blockade of Europe (which deprived not only Germans but Poles, Hungarians, and other Central Europeans of food and supplies). Germany announced the plan and warned against traveling in the vicinity. Yet Wilson let American passengers to board the Lusitania (which carried an explosive cargo). Were it not for the blast the ship would've sunk slow enough to save the passengers.
In a nutshell, the ... ( 9 months ago by R3n3gad3Z3d)
In a nutshell, the First World War was a racist war of aggression against the Germans, the Second World War was a racist war of aggression by the Germans (essentially revenge for the prequel). Pan-Slavism, a racist, anti-Semitic, proto-fascist ideology and the basis for the Serbo-Russian alliance, was the key factor in transforming a local war in the Balkans into a continental one. If you read once in a while, you might know stuff. American intervention led to the Treaty of Versaille.
3. Wilson was right ... ( 9 months ago by R3n3gad3Z3d)
3. Wilson was right to save the world? What the FUCK? How did Wilson save the world? Save the world from what? I don't remember hearing anything so stupid. Unless by "saving the world" you mean laying the foundations for WW2, the Holocaust, World Communism, etc.
4. You obviously know nothing about history. Guess what, the "Krauts" were not the bad guys in WW1. If anything, the Germans were running a much more ethical war. WW1 and WW2 had little in common.
Lincoln did nothing ... ( 9 months ago by MarkDouglasC)
Lincoln did nothing to start the Civil war you moron. What the fuck did he do to start it? What a fucking idiot. Lincoln didn't attack anyone you idiot, the south did. Lincoln was bending over backward not to do ANYTHING till the South attacked. Then he kicked ass.
The Germans posed ... ( 9 months ago by MarkDouglasC)
The Germans posed no threat? Are you retarded? Where do they get these idiots. Germany helped Japs attack pearl you idiot. Plus, German declared WAR on the USA you idiot. What the hell you mean they posed no threat you idiot? THey declared WAR on us, cause they were allies with the slant eyed jap monkeys.
Array ( 9 months ago by R3n3gad3Z3d)
@ MarcDumbassC:
1. Wilson wasn't only wrong to "win" WW1, he was wrong to drag America into Europe's Great War
2. America didn't win WW1. The Entente won, USA lost. (While all the Central Powers lost. It is an undisputed fact that Russia lost, big time, even though they fought on the winning side.) We lost because we entered a war beyond our national interests, and Wilson failed his goals (14 Points, League of Nations). The only nations to come out victorious were Britain, France, and Belgium
Uh, ASSHOLE. In the ... ( 9 months ago by R3n3gad3Z3d)
Uh, ASSHOLE. In the posts when I said the Germans posed no threat I meant during WW1. If you read all my posts, you would get the context. In WW2, the Germans DID pose a threat. They were after all, prepared to go to war with America. (And fighting the Nazis was the right thing to do). However, WW2 was NOT WW1. Though Nazi Germany was a very real threat, the alleged WW1 threat was all hype! (Also, though the Nazis and Japs were allies, to my knowledge Japan attacked Pearl Harbor on their own.)
What do you mean ... ( 9 months ago by R3n3gad3Z3d)
What do you mean Lincoln did NOTHING to start the Civil War? He went to war to preserve the Union. The South wanted to secede. Lincoln said no. Not that I am taking the Confederate side. Lincoln made the best decision IMO. However, Lincoln had the CHOICE to allow the South to secede or preserve the Union. He CHOSE to preserve the Union. What you said was not wrong, just grossly over-simplified. Oh and nobody with the reading comprehension of a third grader should call anyone a "fucking idiot."
the guy with the ... ( 9 months ago by strapt313)
the guy with the gray hair is a stupid fuck who doesn't deserve his freedom.
I believe those ... ( 8 months ago by prof5759)
I believe those guys were just "Pauled"
i agree lol ( 3 months ago by HeritageNotHateProd)
i agree lol
LINCOLN WAS A ... ( 3 months ago by HeritageNotHateProd)
LINCOLN WAS A TYRANT!!!!
He deserves a dick ... ( 2 months ago by JJaguars84)
He deserves a dick in his tight ass.
WAIT did he say ... ( 2 months ago by tommyisirish)
WAIT did he say ron paul isnt participating grass roots?! wtf!
There was no ... ( 2 weeks ago by jackers252)
There was no Constitutional authority for Lincoln to "force" state governments to remain in the union. The Constitution was designed to dissolve the federal government or for the state to remove themselves from it if it didn't serve their people. Lincoln was wrong and unfortunately it cost us 600k people.
Ron Paul was ... ( 2 weeks ago by Eric21ND)
Ron Paul was speaking reason and restraint about Iran 8 months before the National Intelligence Estimate even came out, which backed up EVERYTHING he was saying for months. That smug little shit pundit thinks he's telling Dr. Paul something, come off it kid!



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